Hi all, Everest Poker is shit (legal swear word; to describe something that brings bad emotions for people) nothing but bad beat cheats.
And the busy ever popular I-poker network, including Bet365, Paddy Power and others
is fixed and regulated by Alderney, would operate out of UK and EU juristriction (no rules except ones that suite themselves)
its a shame because online poker should theoritically be a great luxury to play in a safe online evironment in your own home.  As i said before, nothing but bad beats from skypoker, everest poker, and paddy shitty ***** power.
Nothings random it seems, just speculate to accumulate! (more swearing etc)
win some u lose some?  my sound advice would be, get a bad feeling, or to many bad beats and no win roulette spin = leave and dont return.
Ever feel like a casino is rubbish and your being watched? bankroll has a max height??
they aim to promote addiction, not to lose profit.

Reasons:
1. credit crunch, trying to earn as much as they once did by being good to newbies to rake back later from addiction
2. scoring system of how polite u are to online chat etc....word of mouth referals??
3. call me paranoid but i think online gambling has never been so corrupt and is looking to find reasons to justify this
4. f**k u (*=harsher banned swear word) Paddy Power u bunch of hellbound pathetic cheating scum!!

Love u all,
Forby

forby, i have never seen a post i agree with as much as yours!!  williamhill, is the worst poker site available on the net,(in my opinion) i once lost 12 times in a row with AA!! as you know when losing with AA, its hard to get away from without losing loads of chips! i have played there the last 2 week, to try out the new site,(i have not played there since the change about 5 month ago) and its just as bad. bad beat after bad beat. its become that bad i am predicting the river!!! was in a $7000 tourny for $10 yesterday, i was at least 80% going to the river on heads up.(u can get the prediction to calculate the odds)  i lost 6 in a row!! i went to live chat after and asked them how come i can predict that the only card that can beat me will come out?? they said just bad luck, and should read the game better!!! i could  not believe it! i am a half decent player, i just find it hard playing against players and a computer!!! if anyone know a RANDOM POKER SITE, please let us know. OVER AND OUT, MUCH LOVE

thanks blueday for that great post, as u say someone built the system!! this has given me great insight into this. i know that this sites "random" numbers is completely flawed. nobody loses on the river on nearly every hand! on the sit and go games, its unreal, who ever the system wants to win always does, i was short stacked 2 days ago in a$30 sit and go, i went all in with kk, chip leader called with 32, flop was 223, turn 2 river 6, and it happens all the time! any fool can see its not random. thats why its so frustrating when all u ask for is a fair game. i have been thinking of recording the footage on my phone, just to show people what is happening,then post it on something. what do u think? OVER AND OUT.

Donanza - there is a piece of software online where you can record your table action and play it as a video....a bit like you see on youtube.  Unfortunately, I can't remember what its called.  I will keep searching and let you know if I find anything.

Also, I just found a very interesting paragraph on another site which may "assist" us in understanding the "why" of bad beats.

"The Poker Action Flop Theory is simply this: the online poker room wants the bad players to beat the good players. Not all the time, just at certain points in a tournament. Skilled experienced players know that bad beats happen, and they can accept them as part of the game. If they are winning overall in the site, they stay and just pick another tournament to enter.  But a new player or a bad player who doesn't win once in a while will stop playing there. Thus no more poker room deposit money from them. The online casinos want to spread the winning cash prizes around, so they create action flops to do this, according to the Action Flop Theory. They deliver great hands to the good players who then boost the pot, and the bad player sucks out on the river."

How often do you see 2 x 2 different suits up to the turn - with possible straights and straight flushes example 45h 67c.  Any noob who thinks his 23h is a great hand because he saw somebody play the hand on TV and win, will be thinking yeah I can win with this.  They call a big raise, flop comes 45h 6c - they hit a straight on the flop, they have an open ended straight flush - they are quids in.  Or you will see a pair with a connected suted card example 5h 5c 6h come on the flop.  You have the straights, flushes, straight flushes, full house....all the possibilities are there.

Bad beats - part of online play to keep the noobs at the tables and depositng their cash.

Watch out if you start winning though - you will be thinking yeah Im on a streak, you up your antes on the ring games and hey presto, you lost a fortune.  

Please remember there are "bots" that people create and these bots play for them.  I am aware of a guy who tested one out and he sat down at a play money table and set the bot working for him.  He went to bed and left the bot playing and was $400 richer when he got up in the morning - although it was play money, it is quite scary when you think about everything that is going out there.

blue

Well there is one reasonable site - www.skypoker.com - its an English site with a casino too. 

If you sign up to www.skyvegas.com - they will give you between £1 and £150 free to try out their site.  If you play poker on there, they give you free points to enter into their freerolls.

I suggest you sign up to skyvegas first and get the free money - you can then use the money for poker if you so wish.

blue

I have played a lot at full tilt and found it is just as bad as the others.  I can't speak for the other one because I don't believe I have played there.

blue

Making a database eh.  That sounds fascinating.

You should remember there are a lot of cheats out there.  There is software (and I've mentioned this before in previous posts) that can tell you what 3 of the cards that will fall on the table will be (or near as damnit).  Its very sad but its also very true.

Checkout this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyB0natIZ8 and you will see lots of this kind of thing on youtube - just search poker cheating software.  Its really scary stuff.

blue

Hey Forby,

I've played on there for some time and yeah, its just as bad as the others. 

The game to play on there is their double or nothiing games.  People play sensibly (to a degree) and 3 out of 6 of you double your dough.  Its fairly easy to double up. 

So where are you playing now then Forby?

blue