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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 10:23:26 AM »

TO YOU ABOUT THE CAPS, THIS IS FREE SPEECH RIGHT? I AM NOT PLAYING THE RACE CARD, THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME OF US TODAY, WE HAVE DISCUSS, WE MAY NOT AGREE BUT WE DONT HAVE TO GET UGLY ABOUT IT.  I AM A BLACK WOMAN.  WHEN I MAKE A STATEMENT, PEOPLE WANT TO THROW UP THE RACE CARD, THE FACT ARE WHAT THEY ARE, YOU CAN SUGARCOAT IT, ADD A LITTLE HONEY, OR SOME EQUAL TO MAKE IT TASTER BETTER.  EQUAL IS A FALSE SWEETNER, NOT THE REAL DEAL.  PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT RACE.  AMERICA IS A RACIST COUNTRY.  REGARDLESS, AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE TREATED, WHETHER IN YOUR FACE OR BEHIND YOUR BACK, WITH DISREPECT AS AMERICANS.  WHEN BUSH AND REAGAN SPOKE, I DONT THINK WE WOULD BE HAVING ALL THIS DRAMA. THE MEDIA DOESNT HELP.  YOU SEE, EVERYONE CANT SPEAK ABOUT BEING BLACK IN AMERICA, I CAN BECAUSE I WAS BLESSED WITH MY COLOR AND SOMETIMES CURSED WITH IT. BUT IRREGARDLESS, PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT BEING RESPECTED.  YOU SEE WHERE I COME FROM, YOU CALL A SPADE A SPADE, NOT A CLUB.  WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS SUBJECT UP, YOU OPENED THE DOOR, BECAUSE THE FACT IS: SOME FOLKS DONT WANT HIM SPEAKING TO THEIR KIDS BECAUSE HE IS A BLACK MAN. I STILL HOLD MY HEAD UP HIGH WHETHER PRESIDENT OBAMA WON OR NOT.  THANK YOU FOR THE POST AND ALL THOSE WHOSE RESPONDED.  P.S. I LOVE TYPING IN CAPS, I AM VISIONALLY IMPAIRED AND I CAN SEE MY WORDS BETTER. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2009, 10:31:26 AM »

I JUST REREAD THE REPLIES....IT WAS SAID BETTER THAN MOST?  IT REALLY WASNT THAT MANY WHO POSTED AND I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS TYPING IN CAPS, AND SPOKE HOW I FELT FOR REAL, I DONT SUGARCOAT, I KEEP IT REAL IN 2009, I DONT HAVE TO LIE TO KICK IT.  I DONT CARE WHO AGREES OR WHO AGREES, I MADE MY STATEMENT, AND IF SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE IT. OH WELL, I LOVED IT AND I LOVE ME.  SO INSTEAD OF SAYING SOME PEOPLE, YOU CAN SAY DEBRA, BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO RACE IN CAPS!  THIS IS STILL A RACIST COUNTRY, THE USA AND THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF RACIST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND THAT INLUDES CHATROOMS AND CHAT FORUMS.  DONT GET ME WRONG, I DONT THINK ANYONE SAID ANYTHING RACIST IN HERE.  LET ME MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.  HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.  I CANT WAIT FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO SPEAK TO THE CHILDREN.  I WILL BE SURE TO START A POST WITH THE AFTER AFFECTS, THAT IS IF MY MEMBERSHIP DOESNT GET CANCELLED. Grin
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2009, 10:45:19 AM »

 I AM A BLACK WOMAN.  WHEN I MAKE A STATEMENT, PEOPLE WANT TO THROW UP THE RACE CARD,......maybe thats because your the one who brings up rasicm in the first place........correct me if i'm wrong, but weren't you the first one to bring it up in this subject???
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2009, 11:04:28 AM »

I thought this topic was about a speech being given to a children in the schools? I'm just wondering how it switched gears.

Trying to find balance and harmony was my whole point.....i really don't try to "sugar coat" anything......i try to find a deeper understanding. I'm sorry if it was taken that way......i just spoke my mind as well. I'm more sorry to be labeled a "sugar coater"

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2009, 11:06:21 AM »

YES FREE SPEECH, THAT IS WHAT I SPOKE, MY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT AND ISNT FUNNY WHEN YOU BRING UP RACISM PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK THAT IS A COP OUT, IT IS WHAT IT IS, THIS MAN IS HATED MORE ANY PRESIDENT AND RECEIVES MORE THREATS.  HE IS ADDRESSED SO MUCH AS MR OBAMA WHEN HE IS THE PRESIDENT.  RACISM IS ALIVE AND KICKING, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR AND SAY IT DOESNT EXIST, IT DOES, RIGHT HERE IN THE GOOD OLE U.S.A.  TEXAS IS READY TO SUCCEED FROM THE UNION, NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.  WELL HE IS HERE TO STAY AND WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT, AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTED AMERICA.  WE CANT GET NOTHING DONE WITHOUT ALL THIS NEGATIVE ENERGY BEING SENT OUT THERE.  YES I AM BLACK AMERICAN AND PROUD OF IT AND PROUD THAT WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE.  AFTER ALL, WE HELP BUILD, DESIGNED IT AND NOW WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS BLACK THAT IS RESIDING IN IT.  

I am one of those people that grew up with the Civil rights movement in full swing, have lived and seen the changes that have occurred here in the USA, most of them for the better... I have to agree somewhat with Debra... racism DOES exist here in the US... Just the Fact that you see it as the "White" house proves that. Racism is so blatant in almost every aspect of life these days... as long as you are not white. Chris Rock, George Lopez and countless other minority comics exploit this to the nth degree.. but fail to see the hypocrisy.

Believe it or not, I go through nearly every day of my life dealing with people based solely on their own merits... I make it through each day without calling someone "Cracker", "Wetback"  or the infamous "N" word...Could not conceive of having black,brown yellow or even sex figure into the mix... I don't need to to realize in this day and age there is an entitlement mentality that overrides typical common sense. People as individuals are typically decent... as groups... they are morons.

I do not weigh ANYTHING Obama does based on his race... It does not mean I support him entirely on every matter. I think his health plan is a recipe for disaster, that his federalization of so much private sector interests is a dangerous precednt and little more than typical head in the sand Democratic Socialism that started with FDR... and as such should be opposed vehemently. Others disagree... and he was elected.

On the plus side, he is a highly intellegent, well educated and dedicated person who I think Does try to work for what He believes is the right course. I believe he is approaching the Myriad issues we have in the Middle East, our interactions on a foreign base in a no nonsense common sense approach... and is doing a good job.

I think his Domestic policy is flawed, that even if his intentions are Pure that the end result will be a bureaucratic Morass that will become a bloated parasitic Tick sucking at the base of American society until the society is no longer recognizable. But to be fair... Race has little to do with it... I think Any Democrat from this past group would have been equally abhorrent. I also think, short of someone that espoused and would follow through the suggestions of Ron Paul, That the Republicans would have much of a different result... just different cronies sucking off the public Teat.

As for Ron Paul... Their is no way he could have accomplished what he set himself up to do... to return the federal government to being bound solely by the Constitution. No federal reserve... No Federal agencies, Taxes on the citizenry, State aid or half the overweight federal institutions we are so familiar with. He would lay the responsibility for providing, or deciding not to provide, thise services to the state level... and those states that wanted such programs could vote for them, tax themselves as much as they wished.

The Texas Succession thing had Nothing whatsoever to do with Race... and everything to do with being forced to accept a Federal "Aid' or intervention that would cause significant financial losses to its citizenry.

As for Typing in all Caps, I realize that Netiquette is not a law, no more than good manners are...

 
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2009, 11:10:18 AM »

Like i said Jimbo.........racism exists and its ugly......same post different words.

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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 11:16:02 AM »

As for Obama's Speach to Classrooms... It is not unprecedented for a motivational or informational adress by a standing president. LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan and both Bushes have done some such speaches...

What stood out here was The White House telling schools, initially that they were expected to make this a reality and a mandatory for the age group it was to target. Being as schools these days are so heavily funded by the government, that the content and intent of the speech, as well as the not so transparent "push to get mom and dad to support the health Plan" placed it a bit outside of the norm and reeked of a blatant attampt to wage a propaganda blitz targeting children.

I will stop now, mainly because one of the few things you do not discuss in a polite public venue is Politics... not without it turning into a bitter argument.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2009, 11:21:07 AM »

As for Obama's Speach to Classrooms... It is not unprecedented for a motivational or informational adress by a standing president. LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan and both Bushes have done some such speaches...

What stood out here was The White House telling schools, initially that they were expected to make this a reality and a mandatory for the age group it was to target. Being as schools these days are so heavily funded by the government, that the content and intent of the speech, as well as the not so transparent "push to get mom and dad to support the health Plan" placed it a bit outside of the norm and reeked of a blatant attampt to wage a propaganda blitz targeting children.

I will stop now, mainly because one of the few things you do not discuss in a polite public venue is Politics... not without it turning into a bitter argument.
It's alittle late for stopping now....i think you made quite a statement.
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2009, 11:31:18 AM »

I'd say something, but I'll just wait till tomorrow to see what this speech is to be about.

And Lips? This IS a good question. Don't be afraid of posting such. I know as I even had to debate about posting that one I did about the slot machine symbol. Didn't want it taken the wrong way.

Though it wasn't..Political in depth Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2009, 11:55:55 AM »

Lip's,

My Political views are somewhat less than mainstream. I tend along libertarian lines but feel that "Functional Anarchy" probably better defines my views. I abhor ANY intervention into my life by ANY authority other than my own.

I believe in taking full responsibility for my own actions... at all times and expect others to do the same.

I dont need someone, or some government with less moral integrity than I try to hold myself to, trying to dictate those to me.

I see most things done "for the public good" to be anything but.

I look at any comment that begins "of course it's obvious" to be ignored without prejudice because it is blatantly obvious that they are trying to sell you a Bridge in Brooklyn.

That's the Anarchy part.

The functional part is that I recognize that a minimum of government, if only to deal with other governments is a neccasary evil. That there are some minimal benefits to having basic rules of conduct, that are applied equally and blindly across the board.

My personal belief is that Politicians ought to recieve a second vote at the completion of there term, and failing to win that one has them incarcerated for life...

See why I dropped the subject?
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 11:57:25 AM »

Debra, using CAPs is considered as yelling at ppl and very rude. I think its fair to say that if you are able to read small prints then you certainly can type without using CAPs.

As of your membership , it won't be canceled , as everyone has the right to speak their mind.

I understand this is very sensitive and delicate subject to you all but please remember guys this is a gambling forum , and there's no room for bitter political arguments .

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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2009, 01:37:27 PM »

okay i hope this is better.  I didn't mean to offend anyone and if you took it that way I do apoligize. Yes, I speak my mind, and my thought process is quite different from some of the other posters.  I am from Compton, California.  Born and raised there since 1955.  I don't make any excuses for who and what I stand for and when you post a subject, it open doors sometimes.  I don't want this do be like the town meetings.  I come from a different place and I have never received any voices of difference to my position.  So as for me, the subject is closed, I will share my thoughts and views elsewhere, and again, I apologize if I offended anyone, I will keep my posts, STRICKLY WITH CASINO INFORMATION.  Thank you for allowing me to be part of this wonderful website because I have found it to be most helpful in regards to casinos and the bonuses! Wink
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 01:48:35 PM »

Deb,

I hope you do come here and post often. As Zuga said we are a gambling site but this particular section "General" is open for any topic. Sometimes things do get alittle heated due to sensitive issues.......but in the end it helps to build stronger relationships with our members.

Besides if we get out of hand........Zuga will snap us back in line......wink!

Please don't stay away from posting in this section!!!!!

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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2009, 02:23:20 PM »

I have to second Lips on her feelings.

Debra,

"I come from a different place and I have never received any voices of difference to my position."

it is my feelings that 90% of the misunderstanding and instant snap to the defensive comes from this, not with you in particular but all of us generally. We are the products of our environment... and few realize how small that environment can be if you are not open to the input from other biospheres... grin, basic Biology.

let me say this now, there was no offense taken nor was any intended in any reply i gave... Instead i saw it as a chance to wander in someone elses enviroment... and plant some substance Of my own peculiar one as well.

Zuga is absolutely correct and the main thrust of our Home here is gambling, bonuses and general gaming... yet discourse, so long as it is done civilly should always be welcome.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2009, 05:56:25 PM »

You know casino business is getting political. I will come back and thanks for the input.  I am sure this is what goes on in the senate and house of representatives and at the end of the day we can all sit down and have a good time.  It is good to express how you feel and I truly respect each and everyone of you.  As far as the race card goes, in the real world racism is still alive and kicking, but that's not everyone.  If you read back at the posts, it was truly enlighting.  My husband is from Trinidad, of mixed race and he had to fight because he was light complextion, a mixture of french, spanish and chinese.  He says:  WORDS ARE LIKE THE WIND, BLOWS ARE UNKIND,TELL THE TREES AND THE TREES TELL THE BREEZE.  This forum has a calm wind blowing and again thank you guys for KEEPING IT REAL IN 2009!
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