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Re: I am the "1 Percent" (The 1 Percent Strikes Back)
« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2011, 05:48:55 PM »
as a retired military veteran,......I think the movement is MORONIC.......one or two bloggers who try to descibe what they think the movement is about does not accurately describe what it is about......please dont hide behind the "english is my second language" flag as your english is excellent.  PLEASE tell me what they want and how the movement will help them get it.  The movement is costing taxpayers millions and has had absolutely NO effect on "WALL STREET??"   what ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT???????  please help me understand

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Re: I am the "1 Percent" (The 1 Percent Strikes Back)
« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2011, 05:51:25 PM »
the people who are backing the "wall street wonders"  are far left wingers with alterior motives that are using a bunch of clowns to create their own private circus.  I think i may already understand.  go figure

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« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2011, 07:12:54 PM »
as a retired military veteran,......

Most important sentence of this entire thread.

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« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2011, 08:59:15 PM »
as a  US citizen, I would be thrilled if they had complete govt healthcare for all children under 18 and all US military vets.  I would love my tax dollars to help pay for that.   I think that the people really need to have more of a say where the monies are spent.     
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« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2011, 04:31:08 AM »
I just copy-pasted:

Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations.

The aim of the demonstrations and rallies is to occupy continuously  Wall Street, the financial district of New York, to make visible and clear protest against corporate greed and perceived social inequality.


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« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2011, 07:59:57 PM »
Hello Gang,

It has been a real long time since I posted here, but this thread is interesting. Let me tell you all my story...

I grew up the only minority in a small town that was all white. No one liked my family because my father was Puerto Rican. To that what town, we were the bottom of the barrel. For years my father worked 4 hours away because no one would give him a job. I grew up being called Spic, The N word, Porch Monkey etc.All the while if my father was home and saw someone who was broke down on the side of the road or if they lost their house to fire, what ever tragedy my father ALWAYS helped out. It pissed me off to end.

When I was 16 my father had his first major heart attack, he was in the ICU for 31 days, he almost died twice. It was then I realized how much my father changed everyone in that towns opinion of him. We had people helping out all the time, and my mother didn't drive. People would come over and take her to the hospital which was 45 minutes away. My mother would offer them some money and they would never take it, and one man told my mother, that my father was sick and he called him at 3 am to look at his furnace, my father got out of bed and spent 2 hours freezing and sick to fix his furnace and never took a cent for his work. 

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« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2011, 08:07:32 PM »
I got my first job, at Ames department store. Worked after school and on weekends. I graduated high school at 16 and moved back to NYC to go to college. I didn't ask my parents for a penny. They couldn't afford it. I took out student loans and got another job. I worked and went to school. I never claimed my minority status. I never will.

I worked for this company for 21 years before I retired. My then boyfriend who is now my husband and I both decided we wanted a good life. We paid for everything cash, no credit. We gave up going out all the time bought our first house together. It was a "fixer upper". We paid 29 grand for it, redid the whole house ourselves from ground up. We lived there while doing this, it was not easy but we finished the house and sold it for 84 grand. We moved on to our next house, did the same thing. We were getting married while we were redoing this house and I paid for my wedding. I wouldn't let my parents pay for anything. They could afford it now. My father had a very successful gun shop and that was their money. I paid for everything, our wedding was almost 60 grand and I got a second job to pay for it.


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« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2011, 08:15:11 PM »
That year we got married I had won 207,613.84 USD playing Carribean stud at the local casino. We paid the taxes on it and both decided that we would invest the money to ensure a good retirement. We didn't piss it away.

We then started working with the local charities and started giving back to our community. We now provide all the Turkeys for local food pantry for Thanksgiving and all the Hams for Christmas dinners. We deliver all the dinners for both holidays and also spend a lot of Xmas gifts for families in need. We don't regret it. It helps show our daughter that some people are not as fortunate as we are and there just might be a day when we will need help. We have so many friends who have lost everything because they were buying everything on credit and when they lost a job they couldn't afford anything. To me living beyond your means is just plain stupid. I don't feel sorry for the people who did this. I don't need a big fancy car or a big fancy home. I could afford those things and I don't have it. People always say your lucky. No we aren't lucky, just smart.


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Re: I am the "1 Percent" (The 1 Percent Strikes Back)
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2011, 08:26:10 PM »
The point of my story, I see Docs point 100%. Why should the ones who busted their butts to get a good life pay for someone else. It is a fair question, it just doesn't seem fair to the 1% that do have a good life. Why do I say this,we pay more in taxes than some middle class families make a year, and give whatever we can to help out those in need, but who is going to help us out when we are old and can't work? There is a good change Social Security wont be there, and with the markets going up and down who is to say we are going to have the money we planned on when we want it?

There are plenty of legit social services people receiving it. I see that, but there are alot more people abusing the system. No one can deny that. But let me tell you all something, some of the things Docs said my hurt because it is true, and many may not like it because it is the truth straight up. My hubby and I worked hard for what we have, and we do have alot. But we also made our minds up at an early age to be successful. I can claim my minority status and get free crap from the government, I chose not to. I can still work, and if I have to I will go back to work. It is the lazy SOB's that piss me off. They want me to take care of them, who the hell are they to expect that from me? Get off your lazy ass and pump gas or flip burger's. Nothing wrong with it, it is an honest living. And for the people with disabilities, get the help you need. Nothing wrong with that either. But if there is nothing wrong with you get a damn job. Don't hand me the excuse there are not because there are jobs, you just want to be paid to do nothing. That doesn't fly well with me and I have no sympathy for any lazy person.

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« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2011, 08:37:36 PM »
well i guess im about to jump in th water and i cant swim i speak 2 different languages i ve worked all my life (3 jobs )then coming home to take careof my kids and my adopted kids.If my doctor would clear me i would work 3 jobs now but my heart is weak and this lupus is kicking my behind.That being said i do work part time and thanks to my check i can make ends meet.I agree that there are freeloaders on the system but i also think there are good decent people who didnt ask to be sick that need the extra help.i dont believe its up to us to judge.From some of the posts i get the feeling that even a person that has terminal cancer and 6 months to live should get off the death bed and go to work.Im with chilly this post makes me ill.
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« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2011, 09:07:37 PM »
this is a fantastic topic....this topic pisses me off soooooo much.......it is a classic battle of the left versus the right.......fair versus not fair.......i deserve just because versus i deserve because i earned it.........everyone makes choices in their lives.....over and over and over.......there are many side roads a person can and perhaps should have taken over their lives..........EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS RESPONISBLE FOR THEIR OWN DESTINY............if someone has a serious condition there are ways they can get at least some help with their situation.............anyone who has a problem and says has walked into their local church and got turned away for asking for help I would doubt as a true statement.......regardless of religion or belief.   Unfortunately.......most people are dealing with the bad decisions they repeatedly made for years and want others who made better decisions to make up their poor judgement.    Many people also complain about how bad things are yet still continue to gamble away whatever money they have.....then continue to complain how tough things are........people in todays society need to learn to PRIORITIZE the importance of the things in their lives,  make good decisions and most importantly be ACCOUNTABLE for what they do with themselves.

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« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2011, 09:10:19 PM »
Rena,

First let me say, sorry to hear your ill, girl hang in there.

There is a difference in being sick, like having lupis or cancer, and being lazy.

From you post, I can see your not lazy, and I truely hope you start feeling better. If you need anything PM me.

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« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2011, 09:43:13 PM »
Choices is exactly what i said in the beginning of this thread.. (not counting those that are truely ill or are incapable of working, making a living or supporting their families legitimately) WHO is going to make the choice to go out there and work hard to get the things they want and need to live comfortable IF they can get it without all that? Mindless, greedy, thoughtless and LAZYness.. they'd rather sit with there perfectly healthy selves in slight poverty and collect, making up excuses for not working.. it's TOO easy, and the benefits are good. See there are jobs.. they just don't want one.
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« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2011, 09:44:07 PM »
Im with chilly this post makes me ill.


I do agree with this 100%. Even though I had a very tough time raising my 2 kids with no help at all., I still have compassion for people that need help.

The WELFARE system is not what got this country in trouble, it was the greed from wall street and the banksters . And the people that need the WELFARE or the older people that worked all their life and now collecting social security are paying the price.

Everybody has the right to believe what they want, everybody has the right to believe that they are better because they had the ability to make it on their own. I am thankful that to this day I still can make it on my own and feel for the people that are less fortunate than I am.I'm really scared for the day when I can't anymore and rely on social security which I paid in plenty and have it cut below basic needs because of the generation that think that they know the fix to the current problem.

I'm sure that the 1 percenters  are also sad because bank of america did not charge that extra $5 debit fee because they feel that they should be entitled to it. They do not want the exec's to have to cut their bonus because now they can not screw the average joe at least that way.
Be thankful for the 99 percent that spoke up to this. Obviously, the 99 percent are seeing the bigger picture and not afraid to speak up. A high five to the 99 percenters LOL



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Re: I am the "1 Percent" (The 1 Percent Strikes Back)
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2011, 09:50:47 PM »
the left  versus the right..........the never ending battle of half truths and deception. maybe all 100 percent of us are morons.  go figure.

 

 
 

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