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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 09:57:47 PM »

Actually, I'm going for massage therapy, but I still have to take all those classes........
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 11:05:44 PM »

hmmmm..although in my heart i would want her to keep the baby, i would stand behind and support the decision of my girlfriend. Which ever way she decides I will support it. However since i don't have a girlfriend and especially a girlfriend who is pregnant i have to admit that I could only speculate as to what i would do or how i will react. there is one thing that does erk me though. i was  told that free will is a gift - a gift that gives us the ability to make choices. whether they be good ones or bad ones. i feel that if the decisions we make only affects those involved then it is the business of only those involved. so much energy could be better served helping or supporting other things than mingling in the lives or business of others. what good does it do to stick you nose where it doesn't belong and in doing so, making life harder or worse for those who have made their decisions and just want to get on with their lives.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2009, 11:07:09 PM »

BRAVO......very well said Soda!
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2009, 11:20:03 PM »

BUT....there is one law that i would lobby for...especially since it is now illegal to drive and talk on your cellphone (unless using a handsfree device)...i think it should also be illegal to pick your nose and drive too not only is the driver not focusing on the road but it's distracting and disgusting for others who drive byand have to see it. i think if the police were to start asking at a scene of an accident whether or not the drivers involved were picking their noses while they were driving we would all be surprised by the statistics...no doubt the numbers gotta be up there. either that or a lot of false statements.

a perfect example of where of a choice that doesn't just affect the driver...it affects us all!!! all those that have to see that finger going up the....nuff said...

NO MORE DRIVING NOSE PICKERS!

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2009, 11:40:36 PM »

Soda,

No one has a gun to your head and is forcing you to look at the booger picker!!!! People complain that they don't like it...but can give a blow by blow description of the nose picker. You just can't resist looking can you...........roflmaooooooooo!!!

I think its bad enough to pick your nose in public, just don't flick it!!!!


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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2009, 12:02:41 AM »

Come on guys.....boogers, burps, farts...ect.....it's not gross, EVERYONE does it, it's a part of being human...I never understood why people make fun of, or are embarrassed by the actions as if everyone else doesn't go home after a good meal and take a s***Exclamation  And yeah, it stinks...oh well!!
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2009, 12:08:35 AM »

Well it sure ain't pretty.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2009, 12:54:26 AM »

Laugh out Loud satan, burps and farts are excusable.  But picking your nose in PUBLIC is just gross!!  I am not talking about blowing ur nose or using a tissue to get a booger, but FINGER PICKIN boogers in public is just gross!!   

Back to the topic.................

It is the woman's right to choose.  Men don't carry the fetus, go through ANY changes, give birth AND most of them aren't even around to care for their child.  I don't judge ANYBODY and could care less if some1 wants to judge me!!!  (I don't really give a sh*t about some1 else's opinion)  I could go on and on about this.  Since in MY opinion it isn't a "baby" unless it could survive outside of the womb, which has NEVER happened prior to the 21 week of pregnancy.   

The "most premature baby" was born at 21 weeks 6 days.  About 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of pregnancy survive, while about 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive.   

I decided to check the Encyclopedia for definitions-  Wikipedia

EMBRYO-   is a multi cellular diploid eukaryote in its earliest stage of development, from the time of first cell division until birth, hatching, or germination. In humans, it is called an embryo until about eight weeks after fertilization (ten weeks LMP, last menstrual period), and from then it is instead called a fetus.

FETUS-   is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate after the embryonic stage and before birth.   

I also found this statement in the encyclopedia.  Fetuses are not capable of feeling pain at the beginning of the fetal stage, and will not be able to feel pain until the third trimester.  At this point in development, uncontrolled movements and twitches occur as muscles, the brain and pathways begin to develop.
   
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2009, 01:35:08 AM »

Satan, Lips, Shelli...others -

i didn't say to ban nose picking altogether - just while driving. it worst than talking on the phone and driving. you know when u pick you can't but help cock your head to get the best finger penetration without ripping skin. And they vary from the rim clingers to the deep nuggets. Snagging those rim clingers we can let slip but when digging for those nuggets and while driving??? no way...u know your focus is more on that nugget than on the road and then when u do get it u know your eyes are off the road cause you're going to look at it....and then your mind gets occuppied cuz now you're thinking where to put it and how you're gonna get it off your finger which now brings your eyes off the road again. And while you are looking around for something you are driving with one hand that's useless as you avoid touching anything with it. i say if you gotta pick...park it.

lips - when you are out for a drive and so happen to glance over to your right or left and see someone digging deep...don't tell me you don't do a double take...heck u might even be inclined to do a triple...nobody that's human can do a single...if anyone says that he or she does...LIARS!!!


oh and yea shelli i agree with you....men don't carry the fetus
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2009, 01:44:26 AM »

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  I BET YOU CAN HERE ME LAUGHING IN CANADA.

THE DOUBLE TAKE STATEMENT REMINDS ME OF WHEN SOME1 SAYS, "EWWW THAT STINKS"  WHY DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A DEEEEEEEP WIFF!!!   
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2009, 04:19:45 AM »

I have to say that this topic....whilst a very serious discussion has gone off on a tangent which truly has made me laugh.   Grin Tongue

Soda - you're right, we can't just do a single look, in fact we are probably mesmerised by it because we want to know exactly what they are going to do with it once they reach and extract their "goal".  I think the biggest "ewww" will come out when the finger starts making its way to the mouth.....

....and back to the topic.  I would not judge someone who had an abortion because of their financial circumstances or some other medical or non medical reason and I think the trauma of having an abortion stays with that woman for the rest of her life.  I don't know anyone who has had an abortion but I would be sure in my mind that a day would not go by when they didn't think....what if....

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2009, 07:57:33 AM »

Lol....thanks for looking that up Shelli, I almost felt stupid when I said it was an embryo until 10 weeks and was later corrected with 8....Damn it...I knew I heard 10 somewhere lol!!!! But yeah, thats pretty much what I saia in simple terms......good to see my memory isn't failing me...[in high school I would forget lessons by the next morning]
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2009, 08:29:54 AM »

Soda,

I never ever said i don't look.....rflmaoooooooo! All i am saying is if it bothers peeps...don't look!!!!!!

I for one am the first one to say..."oh look look at this one"Exclamation!

I think we should start snapping pics of peeps picking there nose and start a thread on it. It would be hilarious!!!

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2009, 08:39:13 AM »

In all serious and back to topic........

Although females have to go through the pregnancy and delivery, should the baby's father have a say in it? We are talking about a child that is his as well.

I personally don't think it's fair not to give the father a choice in the decision. Being pregnant is only 9 months. Having a child is a lifetime commitment.

I am very open minded and not quick to judge anyone on the choices they make. But i do think it should be discussed by both partners involved. Of course this would be only in a situation where your in a committed relationship or where the father would be part of the child's life.

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2009, 08:54:29 AM »

Lips......Soda......I just picked my nose....it was a big one, green and slimy with red around the edges.........should I upload a picture of it?
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