Lips if I may, Dt an lucky8 are in one heck of a serious conversation, and from an outsider looking in, they both have valid issues!! DT, don't take this personally, but I would have to agree with lucky8 a bit more on this issue, just because we know of all the problems that occurs, when attempting to withdraw from RTG's.
DT you are correct too, when saying, people do still deposit at these sites. Take it from someone, who's dumped thousands in an old rtg site, (4 COINS or something like that) I made a withdrawal request, and the site shut down, never to be heard of again.
Here's the important issue here, we're all here to help one another at LCB. Bashing does not help our cause, it negates all the hard work, each an everyone, has attempted to do. If you two, could possibly get a good  nights sleep, come back in the morning, talk like you really care, for each others opinions, and thoughts, I'll bet you can come to a mutual agreement on this issue.

 Just my 3 cents woth,

    Rico

I appreciate that dt, but heres my take tomatoe tomatoe. What you would see as an attack? Others would see as a statement, and an unbiased one from a newbee. Which I agree we should ALL care is we see that any member 1, 2 or 100 are having a difficult time with these Casinos and are not being treated fairly. I do realize what a hard job lips has, and zuga, and taa and wanahee and blue. This is a site that we all stick together. Yrs ago Zuga's comment on his login said something like "ALL it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to stand by and do nothing" I dont know if he still has it. Mods should fight for us without being asked and I have seen them do it Zuga for one. So it's not oh lets not jump to conclusions about a casino or oh it's just one member. No I disagree if it happens to one of us it happens to us all. Like Geneco post to band together for another member. That's is what we are, let's get back to being that.

I guess that's your opinion; I just don't see it as a forum moderator's responsibility to fight our battles. That they sometimes do is awesome. But they weren't placed here to solve all our problems. While it's fantastic Zuga takes time out to help out where he can, I'm sure it isn't his life's mission to solve all our squabbles with casinos or serve as internet watchdog. As with Lips. She's a moderator and a great one. And she helps an awful lot. Should we not thank her for what she DOES do, and not slight her for the things she can't?

And I'm sorry but I have too say this.  DTsweet I'm not sure why but your posts in this thread make me want to respond too you in a negative way.  They get under my skin and I really can't even begin to explain why..It just kind of reminds me of that pest that keeps popping in to make sure they get the last word in even if it's too say you just want to drop it.  I'm quite sure I'm not the only one that's getting this feeling...I guess what I'd like too see is you let zuga/lips/whoever else you think you need to defend for whatever reason take care of themselves.  Because there actually were some good points in this thread before it got all cluttered in with a squabble.

dt, I thought I was going to bed but Really? This is NOT a BLOG. Big difference here. This is a BUSINESS. As is Casino Meister, The Hodgepodge, The Streak Casinocashgiveaway, I could go on and on. When you have a forum a Casino Forum at that. You have to agree to list casinos and exclusives for your members to play at. Or if you dont then it would just be a CASINO BLOG. Oh and guess what the casinos will PAY you for each referral, sign up from the Casinos for allowing you to promote that Casino. So to say that it is NOT a MODS responsibility to intervene with any Casino is well all I can say is Really? That is like being a Business Owner and saying I am not responsible for any of my customers. If I lead them to one of my vendors, and certainly promote them on my site, and ESPECIALLY GET PAID BY THEM TO REFER MY CUSTOMERS, and they do not take care of them well, customers fault? Again big difference between a BLOG, and a Casino Forum. I can tell you I have NEVER seen ANY CASINO FORUM not fight for their members NOT ONE. If you know of one please POST it, I would not belong. And I do not want this Post taken wrong, the Mods here do intervene, but the most IMPORTANT part of the job IMHO is to protect their members. Why well for one, they get paid for the referrals, from their members to these casinos. And it common decency, and integrity to stand by what your business promotes.

dt your sentiments are very kind,and your heart is in the right place. But the newbees comment was as I saw it a very educated player and he stated "Do not promote any casino that pays you and not intervene for a member. PERIOD. No surprise EVERY CASINO FORUM does it, no questions asked. So I really think you took it the wrong way. Nothing needed defending. But that was kind of you. As for me YES I am a Business Owner, and guess what? My customers come first ALWAYS, and when I here a complaint, question or concern say, Oh lets not jump to conclusions, it was just one customers complaint. One is too many for me, and that is why I stay in business. It's really simple, you promote the casino they pay you for the referral the player deps and luckily wins, the casino pays them. Easy concept.

dog gone it, theres just no gettin to you, is there Dt? It would be best to shelve this issue. I'm not saying your wrong, n as stated many times, we all have our opinions, the shelf is wear this belongs!
                                    Rico

Thanx Lips for closing this thread. Things were getting out of a control. If any of you feel like discussing about this issue be free to start a new thread. But please NO personal attacks or we will close that thread too.

Now let me reply, yet again, to some of the questions raised here, being that my integrity and integrity of LCB was questioned here by some.

LCB, its Mods and myself have always been looking for our members. We have placed numerous warnings, made the casino warning list, introduced the Direct Casino Support Board, invited Casino Representatives to join the board, personally solved hundreds of legit complaints and so on.

All members here know they can turn to us if there is an issue with casino, and we are more than happy to help. If there is a public complaint we usually immediately intervene ( we either notify the LCB Reps and ask them to post or try to solve the issue through emails ). Why I say usually, it is because sometimes we do not notice the public complaint, being that there is so many posts. Thats why members should always notify aka PM myself or any other Mod, and we will try to help.

Some members fail to see that things are not black and white. There is a lot of rants, ungrounded complaints etc. In some cases players made mistake. Thats why we cant nor want rogue certain casino just because there is negative feedback. And this is why the other thread was made as a guideline for members.
If the complaint was justified, which usually happens to be the case, we should all give the casinos the chance to fix the situation. And thats what LCB is doing here. We bring Casino Reps on board or personally contact them on a players behalf. And in the most cases we are able to help.

Any constructive criticism, suggestions and feedback is more than welcome and you are all free to post your opinions that doesnt involve bashing at other members or the LCB.

cheers
Zuga
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