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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 03:55:23 PM »

Just an update for those who care.

On Friday, August 14th, I received "Bonus Deposit" offers from Millionaire Casino and Super slots.

Here's the letter I sent them.:
__________________________________________________________________

Sirs,

Thank you for your offer. However, due to a lack of response on your casinos behalf, I find I cannot deposit at your casino, nor any of the other casinos which you share software usage with.

This is due to one game. "Independence Day" which I believe is flawed.

In the game, the "Declaration of Independence" is the bonus symbol. In the game, you must line up three symbols to have the bonus round. However, I have only seen three symbols when I believe there should be more.

I arrived at this conclusion after playing one tournament and seeing no other symbols, except on the first three reels. However, on the "Snapshot" of the game you get when passing the mouse over the menu selection, you'll see a symbol on the fourth reel.

I have already notified your tech department, but no answer was received of any type of response. So, I have grave doubts the game is fair and correctly coded for your casino.

Be assured, I will play the tournaments, but I will NOT deposit till this is remedied.

Best regards


Dalbert Bailey
_____________________________________________________________________
Well, I received responses from both casinos promising response within 24 hours...Uh-huh..But knowing that this was a Friday, I knew they'd "Back Burner" this for the weekend. Not a problem as like I said in the letter, I wasn't going to deposit till this was resolved.

Well, today after 1 week, I now sent the following:
____________________________________________________________________
Sirs,

Today is Friday, the 21st of august. I was told by you that a representative would contact me within 24 hours. Now knowing this was a Friday, I then thought to wait till the following Monday. No response received...In fact, no response of any kind has been received.

This only reinforces my belief that depositing with your casino is risky as if I cannot get a technical question answered in a timely manner, then woe to me to try and win and withdraw from your casino.

I truly think this issue is more then your casino group would even dare comment on, and so this is acknowledged as dismissal of my observation of this issue.

Sincerely


Dalbert Bailey
____________________________________________________________________

I am having even graver doubts to the casino group (English Harbor Group) will admit or even respond as this issue is possibly a major financial blow as they very well might have cost their players a bit of cash..

Yes, many would say I have now "Slapped" them in the face. Well, I won't lose out on anything as I'm not about to deposit to them any time soon. I have found at times though, it sometimes takes a stiff slap to wake someone up and clear their heads.

However, I doubt even this will do the job.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 10:31:25 PM »

Well, I guess I kind of touched a nerve with them. However, the nerve I touched, wasn't connected to a brain. Here's their response:
____________________________________________________________________

Dear Dalbert,

Thank you for contacting Super Slots.   

We would like to take this opportunity to address your concerns regarding your recent gaming.
 
Every now and then we get a few mails from dissatisfied customers, in addition to many thank you and appreciation emails.
 
Our software utilizes a sophisticated Random Number Generator that ensures a randomized outcome for all the games. As a result, we have many players who win, and at the same time others who lose; this is the nature of gambling.
 
With regards to the software, the Casino is fully licensed by the government of Curacao Netherlands Antilles and the RNG (Random Number Generator) utilized by our software has been checked by an internationally recognized and respected Accredited Testing Facility. The software was found to be completely random and 100% fair. If this were not the case, we would not be operating.

In addition, our software is a fully closed system, meaning that it is not possible for us to alter or modify game results in any way. Note that we reviewed the game and all is fine with it.
 
Our Casino is much like any other business; some days we lose money and others we win.
 
You can rest assure that the games are fair and honest, and you do have a very good chance of winning.
_____________________________________________________________________

Now, in all fairness, I don't believe I said they were "Cheating" I did possibly question their honesty. However, their response shows they truly didn't look at the game, or are ignoring the glaring obviousness of this.

More details to follow..I should start a blog about this, but it's too boring. Oh, I did send a email back to them. I forgot to include it so here it is...
__________________________________________________________________

Sirs,

Please point out, where I said you had an unfair game or advantage or had "Rigged" or "Tampered" with the slot games?

I emailed you last week in regards to a slot game which has a screen shot which shows a symbol which does not show up in the game.

Now how is this perceived that I am saying you have tampered with the game? In fact, this is across ALL of the casinos in your group.

Therefore, it is not your casino, but the software which is at fault, which means you should contact the provider about this, or you can send me their email address and I'll happily continue this conversation with them.

In any case, I cannot be a "Dissatisfied Customer" if I have not deposited yet. Therefore, trying to pass the fault back to me, is a scurrilous act which makes me wonder more about your casino further.

I ask only one of two things. Forward this email the the company/owner of the software, or provide me with their email address and I'll talk with them.

Sincerely

Dalbert Bailey
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2009, 06:46:05 PM »

I tell you, it's like dealing with a 7-9 year old sometimes with these support people. I'm at the point of just not ever depositing and dropping the whole matter and just playing their free tourneys and letting others just suffer.

Here's their reply (and then my response) At least they finally did choose to respond on a weekend.>wow! I'm stunned!!


> From: Superslots Casino - support <support@superslots.com>
> Subject: RE: Sorry, but I will not deposit. (LTK145014158736X)
> > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 3:14 PM
>
>
> REFERENCE NUMBER: LTK145014158736X  Please use this
> ticket number in any correspondence with us.
> SUBJECT: Sorry, but I will not deposit.
>
> Dear Dalbert,
>
> Thank you for contacting Super Slots.   
>
>
> We would like to inform you that the game was revised by us
> and we could not see any faults in this. All is triggered
> accordingly with is also including the bonus round. As we
> could not see or find any faults we grant you the previous
> answer.
>   
> Please know that we were however not able to find your
> screenshot attached
>
> We truly appreciate your comments and your business at
> Super Slots.
> For further questions or comments, please feel free to
> contact us at anytime.
>
> Good Luck and have a great day!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Muyin


Dear Support,

Let me try again to explain what you are not understanding.

When the casino has finished loading, you see a room with areas which denote the games. OK?

You then decide "Slots"

You then place the mouse over that section and the list drops down, exposing the varied slot games.

You then move the mouse to a game which you will select.

The mouse moves over the game selection and THAT'S the screen shot I have mentioned.

It shows you a "Screen shot" of the game playing area. This is the point I was trying (and have several times) to make that the "Screen Shot" shows one symbol on the fourth reel when none is to be found in the actual game.

Again, I am not questioning the RNG, I am not accusing the casino of "Tampering" or "Cheating" I am simply pointing out that the screen shot is NOT in compliance with the game, or the game is not in compliance with the screen shot.

Again, I ask you to look carefully at the fourth reel, the symbol is there and it is NOT in the game, this is all I have been trying to say.

Sincerely

Dalbert Bailey
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2009, 08:18:51 PM »

Well, they finally admit the screen shot is incorrect, but of course, they won't change it. Honesty? That's for the other casinos I guess!

> From: Superslots Casino - support <support@superslots.com>
> Subject: RE: Sorry, but I will not deposit. (LTK145014158736X)
> To: "Dalbert Bailey" <@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 3:59 PM
>
>
> REFERENCE NUMBER: LTK145014158736X  Please use this
> ticket number in any correspondence with us.
> SUBJECT: Sorry, but I will not deposit.
>
> Dear Dalbert,
>
> Thank you for contacting Super Slots.   
>
> We would like to inform you that we understood which screen
> shot you mean now, thank you for explaining it further in
> the last e-mail.
>
> Please note that the screen shots are taken while our games
> are in development, hence the little differences that you
> may encounter. Before the game was released, the bonus
> symbols appeared on reels 2, 3 and 4, not reels 1, 2 and 3.
> This difference in display does not change the amount of
> times/ combinations that can trigger the bonus round.
>   
> We have been in business for over 10 years, and an
> incorrect display of a game in development does not change
> the fact that we have timely payouts and put our customers
> first. If we caused you an inconvenience, we would like to
> apologize for it.
>
> We truly appreciate your comments and your business at
> Super Slots.
> For further questions or comments, please feel free to
> contact us at anytime.
>
> Good Luck and have a great day!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lily
____________________________________________________________
My response:

Dear Lily,

Regarding this communication, that your casino still intends to use this to mislead the incoming gamblers?

I can attest that not having the fourth or even fifth symbol WILL change the outcome of the odds in the game.

I know it takes a bit of doing, but I'd suggest making a new screen shot, and also saying on the pay table that the symbols only show on reels 1,2 and 3.

At least this would be making the game "appear" more fair to the gamblers to your casino, of which though, I shall not ever be a one of those who deposit.

Any online casino survives by honesty and I am finding it sorely lacking in your group of casinos.

Good day.

Dalbert Bailey

(Yes, I am a bit tired of dealing with casinos who obviously think they're above the rules)

Oh well, they'll never get dime one from me. Yes, I'll still play the tourneys, it's free and who knows, maybe I'll win one. Maybe even cash out! (Chuckle)
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