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BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« on: June 15, 2011, 02:36:14 AM »
I played at their casino using their nodeposit bonus after I read their terms and conditions..  Won more than 4,500euro and played until i decided to deposit so that i can cash out over 3,500euro.  I clicked the cashier option for deposit /withdraw but their was no option. i talked to their live support jessica about it. she told me to change my country to china so that i can see the options for deposit and withdrawal. so, I changed it then went back to deposit again but still no option. so i contacted again jessica but sam, the other live help told me that jessica has to reboot her computer. and suddenly told that my country (philippines) is banned fron thier business. after I double checked and reread their terms again, Philippines is not included in banned countries.  Sam told me that they wont accept my business.  WTF. I put all my honest details there and played many hours for me to win but what happen?

Betphoenixcasino terms and condition : http://www.betphoenixcasino.com/terms

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 02:37:30 AM »
We are just poor here trying to win some luck but this is what I got. WTF.

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 02:49:19 AM »























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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 03:10:24 AM »
HI angeleumi, Your post hs been moved from the Direct Casino Support section as only new reps are allowed to post topics in that section.

Looks like there isn't much you can do if you have signed up from a restricted country.

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 03:29:35 AM »
HI angeleumi, Your post hs been moved from the Direct Casino Support section as only new reps are allowed to post topics in that section.

Looks like there isn't much you can do if you have signed up from a restricted country.

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Under their terms and conditions posted their website our country, Philippines is not included in their banned country.  Thats why i singed up and played.

http://www.betphoenixcasino.com/terms

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 03:33:04 AM »
I assume that gambling is allowed in your country?

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 04:13:26 AM »
yes. we have over 30 casinos here, thousands of lottery stations, almost 1000 online casino stations.

we play poker online and casino online. we can deposit anytime to any banks here.

I know cause my father in law is a senior branch manager of a casino here

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 04:21:38 AM »
they were bad when they were RTG, hardly surprised they're bad now..they email me asking me to come back, and im like, uhh, youre rival...no canadians..and if i could, i wouldnt regardless
I must be hungry cuz I'm fishin' chips! ;)

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 04:45:45 AM »
they were bad when they were RTG, hardly surprised they're bad now..they email me asking me to come back, and im like, uhh, youre rival...no canadians..and if i could, i wouldnt regardless
    so true theres nothing left to say very bad business indeed
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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 09:40:44 AM »
Such a shame angeleumi.  I would probably do a written complaint to them stating that their T & C's do not specificallly refer to your country and that gambling in all forms is allowed.

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 11:35:09 AM »
Hi, angeleumi.
What a disappointment it must be for you after winning so much to just hear you won't be able to cash out and I am sorry to hear that but I am not sure if there is anything can be done due to the T/C you posted, I see Philippines is one of the banned countries...

players from the following countries are not allowed to have a casino account or deposit with Bet Phoenix Casino; Afghanistan, Armenia, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czech Republic, France, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Moldova, Macedonia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russian Federation, Sudan, Slovenia, Slovakia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey and Ukraine.

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 11:49:46 AM »
soon it might have usa added so sad
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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 10:02:26 PM »
Regardless if the country is banned or not they are on our warning list and should be avoided. Changing software is not going to change their reputation.

Please always read our warnings before playing and spending your hard earned money making deposits.

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 12:46:29 AM »
Hi, angeleumi.
What a disappointment it must be for you after winning so much to just hear you won't be able to cash out and I am sorry to hear that but I am not sure if there is anything can be done due to the T/C you posted, I see Philippines is one of the banned countries...

players from the following countries are not allowed to have a casino account or deposit with Bet Phoenix Casino; Afghanistan, Armenia, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czech Republic, France, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Moldova, Macedonia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russian Federation, Sudan, Slovenia, Slovakia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey and Ukraine.

Are you from BETPHOENIX CASINO?  I far as I know that is not the content of the terms&condition as of June 15, 2011 1:30am Philippine time.  This is the terms&condition as of the time they screwed me:

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Re: BETPHOENIXCASINO / VERY BAD CASINO
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 12:47:51 AM »
DO YOU SEE PHILIPPINES THERE? AT SECTION 8....

 

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