Ross Miller, a 28-year-old professional gambler from New Jersey, has filed a case against Planet Hollywood Resort in Las Vegas claiming that he was illegally detained and $5,000 in casino chips were taken from him as a result of card counting in June 2013.
The lawsuit was filed on Monday in Clark County District Court and accompanied by an additional suit filed in New Jersey against resort owner, Caesars Entertainment Corp as Miller says he was unlawfully detained at three of the company’s Atlantic City properties in 2013.
During a phone interview, Miller said, “The casinos in general have this negative stigma. They dislike professional advantage players.”
Miller says that card counting is a “playing strategy” and not cheating although casinos consider it cheating.
Robert Nersesian is Miller’s legal counsel in the Nevada case; however he will represent himself in New Jersey.
He was initially detained on May 24, 2013 at Caesars Atlantic City and was cleared of disorderly conduct the following year; however he believes that the case was shared company wide.
In the Nevada case, Miller says he was counting card while playing blackjack on June 20, 2013 and noticed that he had caught the attention of staff. He chose to leave and headed for the Planet Hollywood casino cage to cash in $4,975 worth of casino chips. He claims that the cage cashier took his chips and asked for his identification. When Miller refused to hand over an id, they kept his chips
According to the lawsuit, cage personnel took the chips and requested Miller’s identification. Miller refused.
He was handcuffed by Planet Hollywood personnel and a criminal case was filed against Miller, which ended in his favor but he has still not received his money.
According to Caesars spokesman, Gary Thompson, the company will not comment on pending legal cases.
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pokergranni 9 years ago
pmutts - you are exactly right about the Las Vegas limits on reporting. I was in the gaming field for 20+ years and this type of action by the casino is no way a surprise to me. This gentleman did not have to show his ID to cash out his winnings. Funny, why they didn't ask for his ID when he bought the checks. I'm glad...
pmutts - you are exactly right about the Las Vegas limits on reporting. I was in the gaming field for 20+ years and this type of action by the casino is no way a surprise to me. This gentleman did not have to show his ID to cash out his winnings. Funny, why they didn't ask for his ID when he bought the checks. I'm glad the guy had the garbonoz's to sue the casino. And in 2 different states no less! WTG! This will just set precedence for this type of scenario and the casino's will in the future just have to follow suit. (Pun intended) ;) I wish this guy all the luck in the world and I really hope he beats the casino bean counters!
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iDark 9 years ago
Well, we all heard the similar stories about gamblers taking advantage on the house by counting cards. The system working and the casino "big eye" always forwarding such a suspicious winnings or winning streaks. I do Imagine, if You gamble too much or too high You could be asked to walk away lil bit, to solve the problem...
Well, we all heard the similar stories about gamblers taking advantage on the house by counting cards. The system working and the casino "big eye" always forwarding such a suspicious winnings or winning streaks. I do Imagine, if You gamble too much or too high You could be asked to walk away lil bit, to solve the problem :D The proble is the casino not allow You to win in such strategy, because if people would play like this guy ( and be allowed to do so ) the casino's will be closed soon...
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pmutts 9 years ago
The law in Atlantic City is that a casino cannot refuse to allow a skilled player on their tables. They can however, take counter measures that will eliminate the slight advantage the player may have over the casino. I Las Vegas, card counting is not a crime nor is it illegal. The casinos can however refuse to allow anyone...
The law in Atlantic City is that a casino cannot refuse to allow a skilled player on their tables. They can however, take counter measures that will eliminate the slight advantage the player may have over the casino. I Las Vegas, card counting is not a crime nor is it illegal. The casinos can however refuse to allow anyone they choose from playing any game they choose for any reason--even if no cheating is involved. I cannot possibly see how they had a right to refuse to cash his chips. Table games allow for up to $10,000 in a 24 hour period before IRS Reporting. Any win over $1200 on slots or video poker must be reported and taxes withheld. I'm not certain about refusal to provide ID. It is clear he committed no crime and I think his suit has merit.
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VaRiXD 9 years ago
pinkxxx Good point I would as well simply show my ID no big deal ! That why I prefer Casino online only had to select a well know casino that pay well and that it ! Spring is coming can wait to start tempting the chance Winter was very very hard, money as well :) Anyway GOOD LUCK to all Canadian eheh
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pinkxxx 9 years ago
He should have given ID , You always have to have your ID with you in a casino for one reason or another ...being there , cashing out JP's etc. The counting cards I strongly believe this is not cheating however all casinos consider it as such . I'd hate to get on a BJ lucky streak and they accuse me of counting cards when...
He should have given ID , You always have to have your ID with you in a casino for one reason or another ...being there , cashing out JP's etc. The counting cards I strongly believe this is not cheating however all casinos consider it as such . I'd hate to get on a BJ lucky streak and they accuse me of counting cards when there would be no way I could that..lol Casino's always want to wish you luck...the cage smiles at you too...and If you win or win big they are irrate and and in some cases automatically accuse you of cheating . In the end Im curious as to how they can prove their case.
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bmalnar 9 years ago
i have never had trouble doing the mathematically probable counting as long as only one or two decks are being used. i have never been accused of cheating. I guess what i am struggling with here is how the heck can u KNOW someone is counting? can these people reads minds? and why is it illegal to pay attention to your surroundings...
i have never had trouble doing the mathematically probable counting as long as only one or two decks are being used. i have never been accused of cheating. I guess what i am struggling with here is how the heck can u KNOW someone is counting? can these people reads minds? and why is it illegal to pay attention to your surroundings while using your intellect to recall cards discarded and then reconfiguring whats left in between deals. are they saying if we happen to be smarter than the average drunken gambler that we should forfeit all winnings while being criminally charged to boot.
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jade 9 years ago
Thee are several things in this article that make me wonder who is right and who is wrong. He was asked for ID and he refused. In my state and thought all states, if you win more than $599.00 you have to report it to the IRS. I would think that was why they wanted his ID. Every article I have read about card counting, the...
Thee are several things in this article that make me wonder who is right and who is wrong. He was asked for ID and he refused. In my state and thought all states, if you win more than $599.00 you have to report it to the IRS. I would think that was why they wanted his ID. Every article I have read about card counting, the payer is usually asked to leave like Ben Affleck. Do you think this guy is going to set some kind of legal precedent about card counting. It says he is going to represent himself in New Jersey. We all know what they say about someone who represents himself, having a fool for a client.
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